Election candidate arrested over Churchill speech – Telegraph
Paul Weston a member of Great Britain’s Liberty Party was arrested both for delivering a speech in public and on charges of “suspicion of racial harassment”.
The former charge apparently derives from a requirement to have some kind of permit before speaking with a blow horn.
The latter charge was apparently because Weston dared to quote Winston Churchill’s book The River War in which Churchill made derogatory remarks about Islam :
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property — either as a child, a wife, or a concubine — must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”
Where is the incitement racial or otherwise? Certainly Churchill overstates since there are many Muslims to whom these charges are inapplicable ( indeed there are those among Muslims who fight against these evils.) But is this passage so wildly inaccurate when leveled at the governments of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Iran? Do we not witness rampant misogyny ,backwardness, & fanaticism in the Islamic World on a daily basis? Have we not seen mobs of BRITISH Muslims (literally) screaming for Danish blood with chants of “die die Denmark” in response to the cartoons ridiculing Mohammed? I myself have posted numerous examples of these evils on my blog.
In any event the word incitement has an actual legal meaning in the U.S.: speech whose purpose can be objectively shown to be to persuade people to commit violent criminal acts in the here & NOW –denouncing a religion is not incitement . Calling on your audience to commit murder IS. (whether or not the call was motivated by racism or religion).
If you use your right of free speech to condemn Islam ( or Judaism or Christianity) you are not guilty of “incitement” because some fanatic decides to murder you .
It is the fanatic who must be stopped, not appeased.
But this grasp of free speech has been thrown out the window in Europe ,where instead of protecting the free speech rights of Weston ,they do the work of his critics by seeking to silence him by force.
Author’s note: Nothing I say should be taken of as even a semi- endorsement of Weston ‘s beliefs beyond what I have stated,(which concern the Churchill quote) I do not know of ,nor do I endorse his other statements & for all I know they may be loathsome to me . But nothing in the Churchill quote justifies imprisonment & if Weston made some other comment that is a genuine incitement to mob violence it is not mentioned in the article.
Iran: Execution of Kurdish Dissidents Imminent – Near East Observatory http://neobservatory.org/human-rights/iran-execution-of-kurdish-dissidents-imminent/ EXECUTION FEARS GROW FOR IRANIAN KURDS Amnesty International http://www.amnesty.org/fr/library/asset/MDE13/010/2012/fr/ef544c1f-9aee-469e-8314-900a9e5623a4/mde130102012en.html …”
Zaniar (or Zanyar) Moradi and Loghman (or Loqman) Moradi were sentenced to public hanging on 22 December 2010 by Branch 15 of the Tehran Revolutionary Court after a trial reportedly lasting 20 minutes. They were convicted of “enmity against God” (moharebeh) and “corruption on earth” for allegedly murdering the son of a senior cleric in Marivan,Kordestan province, north-eastern Iran, on 4 July 2009. They were also convicted of participating in armed activities with Komala, a Kurdish opposition group. Their sentences were upheld by the Supreme Court and have reportedly been sent to the enforcement office of the Judiciary. Zaniar Moradi and Loghman Moradi were arrested respectively on 1 August 2009 and 17 October 2009 in Marivan. They were held without charge by the Ministry of Intelligence for the first nine months of their detention during which they were moved several times between detention facilities. Around the beginning of December 2010 they were transferred to Raja’i Shahr Prison northwest of Tehran. The two men then wrote a letter stating that during their interrogation by the Ministry of Intelligence they were forced to “confess” to the allegations of murder after being tortured and threatened with rape. Amnesty International has so far been unable to confirm reports that Zaniar Moradi was 17 at the time of his arrest.
Egyptians Question U.S. Policy, Call for Change | Fikra Forum http://fikraforum.org/?p=2914 ….”At this critical time in Egypt’s transition, Fikra Forum felt it important to gauge the reaction of the non -Islamist Egyptian opposition to current U.S. policy. We are happy to present the opinions of well-established democracy and human rights activists on the ground, in addition to expert analysts and observers. We offer gratitude to our contributors, Hafez Abu Saeda, Basil El-Dabh, Dina Guirguis, Hany Nasr, Bassem Samir, Josh Shahryar, and Dalia Ziada, for their valuable insight. “….. More at the link.
Filed under Activism, Arab Spring, Current events, Egypt, Free Speech, Human rights, Islamism, Israel, Muslim Brotherhood, Religion, Womens Rights
BosNewsLife – Christian News Agency » Blog Archive » NEWS ALERT: Jailed Iran Pastor Facing Death In Prison, Christians Warn http://www.bosnewslife.com/25052-news-alert-jailed-iran-pastor-facing-death-in-prison-christians-warn ….”
Pastor Behnam Irani, 41, reportedly lost about five kilograms as he fights a blood infection.Iranian Christians have told BosNewsLife that he was previously beaten by fellow inmates and guards of the Ghezel Hesar Prison in Karaj city, one of the toughest jails in the country, some 20 kilometers (12 miles) west of the nation’s capital Tehran. Rights activists with close knowledge about the pastor’s situation said he was in “Ward 2 of Salon 7” where each of the 15 square-meter cells hold up to 40 prisoners. “There are only six bathrooms for 600 inmates,” added advocacy group Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW).
Maqdisi’s Disciples in Libya and Tunisia – By Aaron Y. Zelin | The Middle East Channel http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/14/maqdisi_s_disciples_in_libya_and_tunisia ” Since the attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi and U.S. Embassy in Tunis in September, there has been a large spotlight on the Islamist groups viewed as the main culprits — Katibat Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi (ASB) and Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia (AST). While much of the understandable focus has been on the violent actions of individuals in these organizations, much of the scope of their activities lies outside violence. A large-portion of the activities of these groups is local social service provision under their particular dawa (missionary) offices. This broader picture is crucial to better understanding emerging trends in societies transitioning from authoritarian to democratic rule. ASB and AST can broadly be considered jihadi organizations based on their ideological outlook. However, these jihadis are different than past incarnations. Jihadis have a good track record in fighting and less so in governing or providing social services. The only example of jihadi governance has occurred when the Somali-based Harakat al-Shabab al-Mujahidin and Yemeni-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) held actual territory. What sets ASB and AST apart is that they are providing aid to local communities in a non-state actor capacity, which has been unheard of previously.”….
Sweden to Deport Iranian Christian?
http://blogs.cbn.com/globallane/archive/2012/11/12/sweden-to-deport-iranian-chirstian.aspx ” Iranian Christian Reza Jebbari faces imminent deportation from Sweden, despite the possibility that his return to Iran could lead to his imprisonment or death. Jebbari is a former Muslim who converted to Christianity during a visit to Baku, Azerbaijan, in 2010. He applied for assylum [sic] when he arrived in Sweden two years ago, but the Swedish Immigration Service and the Migration Court rejected the request. The assylum denial came despite evidence that Jebbari actively participates in church activities, including street evangelism on a regular basis. He’s appeared in church plays and sings in the choir at Tensta Church. Apparently the court questioned the sincerity of Jebbari’s conversion and said he failed to convince them that his life would be in danger if he were sent back to Iran. This, despite assurances from Jebbari’s pastor that, “He has a deep Christian identity, as much as I have.” RRD: We have just had a very public,high profile case of a Christian–Pastor Nadarkhani–who narrowly avoided death & now we are told that this man would not be in danger if returned??!
RRD: I wish to preface this post by noting that I believe that if Tehran’s nuclear program is not stopped that we face a potential nuclear holocaust . That said,how that threat is neutralized, whether through sabotage,or through a overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran by it’s people,or through a military strike,is another question. I do not believe that the matter is as simple as immediate war on the one hand, or ”containment” on the other. Containment & deterrence are not terribly effective when you are dealing with apocalyptic medievalists. But Tehran’s nuclear program was delayed for months to years by sabotage. Whether we have reached a point where we must face a stark choice between bombing Tehran’s nuclear facilities or “learning to live with” nuclear armed maniacs is unclear to me. Certainly the leaks on Israel’s cyberwarfare program by this administration have moved us closer to that point. War is not a lark or a game,& it should only be undertaken as a last resort,but if it does in fact come down to a war initiated by the U.S. against a non-nuclear armed Tehran ,or a war initiated by nuclear armed religious fanatics it would be suicide ( for the U.S. & Iran & Israel) for us to choose the latter. The Iranian people are held hostage by the maniacs who rule their country,but their situation will not be improved if their dictators unleash a nuclear holocaust in the middle east. My purpose in posting this is not to call for war,but to make the case that if we exhaust all other options,we must preserve the option of a military strike on Tehran’s nuclear facilities. More arguments: The argument against Military action (even as a last resort) : No Rush to War – NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/15/opinion/no-rush-to-war.html?_r=0 The argument for Military action as a last resort: The Price of Inaction An Analysis of Energy and Economic Effects of a Nuclear Iran Bipartisan Policy Center http://bipartisanpolicy.org/library/report/price-of-inaction HT to for the source: The Costs of Inaction on Iran « Commentary Magazine http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/10/19/the-costs-of-inaction-on-iran-study-nuclear-oil-gas-prices/ Background: List of links on the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Nuclear Threat and Mahdism (the doctrine of the Twelfth Imam) | Glory to man in the highest https://gloryofman.wordpress.com/list-of-links-on-the-islamic-republic-of-irans-nuclear-threat-and-mahdism-the-doctrine-of-the-twelfth-imam/